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	<description>This is beyond marketing, it is manipulation</description>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafluence.com/can-corporations-leverage-blogs/#comment-12706</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;any blog, whether “trustworthy” or not is a valuable text&lt;/blockquote&gt;

True. I even &lt;em&gt;like&lt;/em&gt; to be marketed to when it's done well. Apple is a great example of a company that doesn't always act transparently, but I still have trust in them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>any blog, whether “trustworthy” or not is a valuable text</p></blockquote>
<p>True. I even <em>like</em> to be marketed to when it&#8217;s done well. Apple is a great example of a company that doesn&#8217;t always act transparently, but I still have trust in them.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Bowman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafluence.com/can-corporations-leverage-blogs/#comment-12693</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Bowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transparent rhetoric is nice and I'd hope for it, to some degree, in a corporate blog, but even without it, any blog, whether "trustworthy" or not is a valuable text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transparent rhetoric is nice and I&#8217;d hope for it, to some degree, in a corporate blog, but even without it, any blog, whether &#8220;trustworthy&#8221; or not is a valuable text.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafluence.com/can-corporations-leverage-blogs/#comment-12372</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Dave&lt;/strong&gt;, the Redfin example is an excellent example of a business using a blog to help their business. And, you're right; radical transparency is key.

&lt;strong&gt;jg&lt;/strong&gt;, while Guy's blog is not an official blog, it does point to the fact that people trust third party blogs and companies should be aware of the conversations that are happening on them.

&lt;strong&gt;Roy&lt;/strong&gt;, commenting is an important aspect of blogging. In fact, it's the heart of what makes a blog a blog and not regular news. I think people are less inclined to leave comments when they feel like there is not a person they are connecting with. It goes to the point that businesses are more successful with a blog if they can connect it to an individual, such as Robert Scoble on behalf of Microsoft. While people may still be suspect of Microsoft as a company, at least they can feel good that Scoble is there and may represent their opinion in the boardroom where they don't have access.

&lt;strong&gt;Sabrina&lt;/strong&gt;, you make a great point here, that people will turn to the blogosphere for a background check on a company they've heard of. It's a more trustworthy source than the marketing info coming from the horse's mouth. I think it also further underlines the importance of a business paying attention to the conversations happening about them in the blog world, and maybe even joining the conversation where it makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dave</strong>, the Redfin example is an excellent example of a business using a blog to help their business. And, you&#8217;re right; radical transparency is key.</p>
<p><strong>jg</strong>, while Guy&#8217;s blog is not an official blog, it does point to the fact that people trust third party blogs and companies should be aware of the conversations that are happening on them.</p>
<p><strong>Roy</strong>, commenting is an important aspect of blogging. In fact, it&#8217;s the heart of what makes a blog a blog and not regular news. I think people are less inclined to leave comments when they feel like there is not a person they are connecting with. It goes to the point that businesses are more successful with a blog if they can connect it to an individual, such as Robert Scoble on behalf of Microsoft. While people may still be suspect of Microsoft as a company, at least they can feel good that Scoble is there and may represent their opinion in the boardroom where they don&#8217;t have access.</p>
<p><strong>Sabrina</strong>, you make a great point here, that people will turn to the blogosphere for a background check on a company they&#8217;ve heard of. It&#8217;s a more trustworthy source than the marketing info coming from the horse&#8217;s mouth. I think it also further underlines the importance of a business paying attention to the conversations happening about them in the blog world, and maybe even joining the conversation where it makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Sabrina</title>
		<link>http://www.metafluence.com/can-corporations-leverage-blogs/#comment-12361</link>
		<dc:creator>Sabrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't read any of the blogs you mentioned. But since the conversation is about why people don't comment, I thought I had time to contribute. 
I tend to only find blogs when I am looking for a specific topic. The best example was when I wanted to know more about Second Life- all the hype, hype, hype. I was very suspicious. The people who want Second Life to be a money making interface are all about playing it up. I did find people who said it was slow and empty (no one to talk to) and full of porn. It was also "all about the money" I.E. you couldn't do anything unless you spent money. I found images of things people had created in that world but it made sense that it would be a sparse (too big for it's own good) interface for a shopping mall.  And I don't like shopping! 

I still feel that because of the deception, the "perfect picture" Second Life has painted for everyone that they are not being honest so I am more likely to trust those that had negative experiences. I am sure the technology has a long way to go before it becomes what it says it is. Transparancy people, is important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read any of the blogs you mentioned. But since the conversation is about why people don&#8217;t comment, I thought I had time to contribute.<br />
I tend to only find blogs when I am looking for a specific topic. The best example was when I wanted to know more about Second Life- all the hype, hype, hype. I was very suspicious. The people who want Second Life to be a money making interface are all about playing it up. I did find people who said it was slow and empty (no one to talk to) and full of porn. It was also &#8220;all about the money&#8221; I.E. you couldn&#8217;t do anything unless you spent money. I found images of things people had created in that world but it made sense that it would be a sparse (too big for it&#8217;s own good) interface for a shopping mall.  And I don&#8217;t like shopping! </p>
<p>I still feel that because of the deception, the &#8220;perfect picture&#8221; Second Life has painted for everyone that they are not being honest so I am more likely to trust those that had negative experiences. I am sure the technology has a long way to go before it becomes what it says it is. Transparancy people, is important.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.metafluence.com/can-corporations-leverage-blogs/#comment-12329</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This idea also applies to blogging. My sites, though wide open for comments, rarely garner any. My ego won't let me believe that it's because there's nothing worthy of comment on them. As you pointed out in a discussion we had a while back, perhaps readers don't feel like I &lt;i&gt;want&lt;/i&gt; comments, or that the format of my sites doesn't welcome them to reply. You've obviously overcome this on Metafluence.

But, I just noticed that New Media luminary &lt;a href="http://frontwheeldrive.com/geert-lovink-tracking-critical-net-culture" rel="nofollow"&gt;Geert Lovink&lt;/a&gt;'s new book is called &lt;i&gt;Zero Comments&lt;/i&gt;, an obvious statement on the failure of blogs to incite real conversations. I agree that, in a lot of ways, we're all just talking &lt;i&gt;at&lt;/i&gt; each other. Blogging corporations face the same pitfalls (i.e., of their readers not feeling welcome to comment).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This idea also applies to blogging. My sites, though wide open for comments, rarely garner any. My ego won&#8217;t let me believe that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s nothing worthy of comment on them. As you pointed out in a discussion we had a while back, perhaps readers don&#8217;t feel like I <i>want</i> comments, or that the format of my sites doesn&#8217;t welcome them to reply. You&#8217;ve obviously overcome this on Metafluence.</p>
<p>But, I just noticed that New Media luminary <a href="http://frontwheeldrive.com/geert-lovink-tracking-critical-net-culture" rel="nofollow">Geert Lovink</a>&#8217;s new book is called <i>Zero Comments</i>, an obvious statement on the failure of blogs to incite real conversations. I agree that, in a lot of ways, we&#8217;re all just talking <i>at</i> each other. Blogging corporations face the same pitfalls (i.e., of their readers not feeling welcome to comment).</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.metafluence.com/can-corporations-leverage-blogs/#comment-12319</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, two things come immediately to mind: 

1) These ideas are not new, but their implementation is. In &lt;i&gt;The Cluetrain Manifesto&lt;/i&gt;, the four authors saw that markets were conversations and called for corporations to get involved. Well, now that the technology has finally proliferated enough for that to happen (it was available seven years ago, but not on the scale -- nor on the scale of awareness -- that it is now), we're seeing some of them try it. Which leads me to,

2) In &lt;a href="http://frontwheeldrive.com/the-tipping-point-by-malcolm-gladwell" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Tipping Point&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://frontwheeldrive.com/malcolm-gladwell-epidemic-proportions" rel="nofollow"&gt;Malcolm Gladwell&lt;/a&gt; describes how eliminating graffiti in an area of New York reduced the overall crime rate in that area. Just by presenting the impression of reduced presence of crime in the area, the authorities saw crime diminish. The admission of fault by JetBlue's CEO established trust in a similar way. When an ontology or a relationship looks a certain way on the surface, it is accepted that way until that impression is contradicted. While not completely analogous, the idea in Gladwell's book and the gesture of JetBlue's CEO have similarities that speak to the value of radical transparency. Graffiti on walls and broken windows (much like the general mistrust of large corporations) indicate a hostile environment (or relationship). When these are cleaned up (or a CEO admits guilt in an act of honesty and openness), the environment (or relationship) seems open and welcoming.

Obviously, openness in general is a good thing, but it takes an act of goodwill (such as the examples above) to establish trust beyond that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, two things come immediately to mind: </p>
<p>1) These ideas are not new, but their implementation is. In <i>The Cluetrain Manifesto</i>, the four authors saw that markets were conversations and called for corporations to get involved. Well, now that the technology has finally proliferated enough for that to happen (it was available seven years ago, but not on the scale &#8212; nor on the scale of awareness &#8212; that it is now), we&#8217;re seeing some of them try it. Which leads me to,</p>
<p>2) In <a href="http://frontwheeldrive.com/the-tipping-point-by-malcolm-gladwell" rel="nofollow"><i>The Tipping Point</i></a>, <a href="http://frontwheeldrive.com/malcolm-gladwell-epidemic-proportions" rel="nofollow">Malcolm Gladwell</a> describes how eliminating graffiti in an area of New York reduced the overall crime rate in that area. Just by presenting the impression of reduced presence of crime in the area, the authorities saw crime diminish. The admission of fault by JetBlue&#8217;s CEO established trust in a similar way. When an ontology or a relationship looks a certain way on the surface, it is accepted that way until that impression is contradicted. While not completely analogous, the idea in Gladwell&#8217;s book and the gesture of JetBlue&#8217;s CEO have similarities that speak to the value of radical transparency. Graffiti on walls and broken windows (much like the general mistrust of large corporations) indicate a hostile environment (or relationship). When these are cleaned up (or a CEO admits guilt in an act of honesty and openness), the environment (or relationship) seems open and welcoming.</p>
<p>Obviously, openness in general is a good thing, but it takes an act of goodwill (such as the examples above) to establish trust beyond that.</p>
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		<title>By: jg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafluence.com/can-corporations-leverage-blogs/#comment-12317</link>
		<dc:creator>jg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, although I don't think Guy Kawasaki's blog (http://www.guykawasaki.com) is officially an Apple blog, it sure had a profound influence on my view of Apple's strategy. In fact, I have bought 2 Macs this year, and I think probably partly because I could understand Apple's positioning from his blog in a much less "formal" way, rather than the usual corporate documentation that sounds like a sales pitch (that I wasn't buying). 

So I would say yes, absolutely they can, but they have to be sincere and personal. Readers are pretty quick to identify marketing "dribble" (no offense intended) that is posing as a personal blog entry. 

--jg
http://metroknow.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, although I don&#8217;t think Guy Kawasaki&#8217;s blog (http://www.guykawasaki.com) is officially an Apple blog, it sure had a profound influence on my view of Apple&#8217;s strategy. In fact, I have bought 2 Macs this year, and I think probably partly because I could understand Apple&#8217;s positioning from his blog in a much less &#8220;formal&#8221; way, rather than the usual corporate documentation that sounds like a sales pitch (that I wasn&#8217;t buying). </p>
<p>So I would say yes, absolutely they can, but they have to be sincere and personal. Readers are pretty quick to identify marketing &#8220;dribble&#8221; (no offense intended) that is posing as a personal blog entry. </p>
<p>&#8211;jg<br />
<a href="http://metroknow.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://metroknow.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafluence.com/can-corporations-leverage-blogs/#comment-12316</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes corporations can leverage blogs although only, and I stress only, if they are truly transparent. Ford isn't the only one allowing harsh comments to be posted to their blogs. An online real estate company called Redfin recently turned the tide of hate from real estate companies trying to put them out of business by putting up a blog and beeing completely honest about the way these companies were trying to kill his biz. The response from the public was so overwhelmingly in favor of Redfin that they won the battle and survived.

Dave Allen &lt;a href="http://www.nemodesign.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Nemo Design&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes corporations can leverage blogs although only, and I stress only, if they are truly transparent. Ford isn&#8217;t the only one allowing harsh comments to be posted to their blogs. An online real estate company called Redfin recently turned the tide of hate from real estate companies trying to put them out of business by putting up a blog and beeing completely honest about the way these companies were trying to kill his biz. The response from the public was so overwhelmingly in favor of Redfin that they won the battle and survived.</p>
<p>Dave Allen <a href="http://www.nemodesign.com" rel="nofollow">Nemo Design</a>.</p>
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